Thursday, June 10, 2010 - 11:33 AM

In the maelstrom of commentary regarding the Gaza flotilla from all corners of the earth, one important group has hardly been heard: the Israeli people. Are Israelis critical, scandalized like Americans after Kent State, and demanding political change? Or are they going defensive against the international onslaught and scorning the specter of global excommunication
Right away, both sides were out and both were angry. The "critical" crowd protested against the actions at the Tel Aviv defense compound; "defensive" citizens flocked to the Turkish Embassy to support the soldiers and shake fists at Turkish Premier Erdogan. Days later, fresh demonstrations brought greater numbers, roughly 2000 at the Turkish embassy, and roughly 6000 "critical" lefties calling for a new government, two states, two capitals in Jerusalem, and end to the closure. There are no recent precedents for a left demonstration outnumbering their counterparts by three-to-one.
The activity itself already signifies a watershed, so to speak. In recent years, Israeli society has been uncharacteristically unengaged, with the right in power, and the geriatric left in despair. Polls show that people support peace, but the streets attest to their silence; the numbers consistently show young people turning towards nationalist, hard-line attitudes.
The silence has been broken.
Mainstream Israel is mainly defensive, powerfully influenced by the IDF-filmed and edited battle scene replayed endlessly. Images of Israeli soldiers being beaten and screaming have been seared into people's minds, uniting them in victimhood. It was victimhood that propped up 80% support or more, for the Gaza war. Don't expect a crack in that consensus.
The crisis of relations with Turkey is also top of mind and top of the news and stoking hostility among defensive Israel. Signs at the first demonstration at the Turkish embassy read: "Erdogan is a terrorist," and "Turkey, shame!" Amit Strikovsky, a 32-year old demonstrator said: "The provocation makes me very angry.." Shaul Goldstein, the head of the regional council of the Etzion settlement bloc in the West Bank, said that Turkey proved has "crossed over to the axis of evil," expressing the latest Israeli fear of the Turkey-Iran-Syria takeover of Middle East affairs.
And Israelis love to debate their image, even when it is a disaster. A March Jerusalem Report/New Wave Research survey showed that 73% of Jewish Israelis say Israel's international image is very important. But as I have discussed, that's because defensive Israel far prefers to confront its image rather than policy.
Serious, penetrating questions about Israel's broader policies are seriously lacking, in stark contrast to the international discourse from which many Israelis are insulated by language and provincialism. Only with talk of a local and international investigative commissions being established, are the questions even being raised.
Maybe that's because Israelis basically back the Gaza closure. A 2008 survey commissioned by the human rights group Gisha showed that they were at once realistic and intransigent. Seventy-nine percent of the 600 Jewish respondents, a near-consensus, agreed that the closure primarily harms civilians. Sixty percent worried that it would increase Islamic extremism, fully two-thirds (67%) said it hurt Israel's image internationally. Nearly eight-in-ten (78%) said it would not bring down the Hamas. Despite acknowledging these failings, a broad majority of nearly two-thirds (63%) rejected easing the closure.
Accordingly, in a survey by the Dahaf polling agency for the Knesset Channel taken just before the ships set sail, 65% of 425 Jewish Israelis said Israel should "prohibit protest inside Israel's territory such as the aid flotilla for Gaza residents." (Note the keyword: "inside.")
In one of the first post-Marmara polls (by Maariv/TNS), the questions are as revealing as the data. A strong 63% Jewish majority admitted that the flotilla should have been stopped some other way. Forty-three percent, a strong plurality, said Defense Minister Barak is mainly responsible for the results; 20.8% cited the army and 16.1% chose Prime Minister Netanyahu. Add the "Barak" and "army" responses, and 64% see this as military/security, rather than political issue.
That's partly because the IDF is determined to brand the operation a success (since it did stop the ships). Chief of Staff Gabi Ashkenazi gave Maariv its huge Friday headline, "They fought like lions;" Yediot Ahronot published flower-decorated letters by schoolchildren praising the "dear soldiers," for "always protecting our country." Hardly anyone thinks that the defense minister or the prime minister should resign (74.8% and 89.1%, respectively, reject this).
Hardly anyone is asking whether the flotilla should have been stopped at all. That's probably because, according to the most recent poll published on Thursday in Israel, there's a consensus: 92% of the 561 Jewish respondents said Israel should have stopped it, and 91% say it should stop future ships. If politicians think they can get away with avoiding the larger question of the Gaza closure, they probably can. Remarkably, in total opposition to the global discourse, the percentage of people who oppose lifting the closure is now higher than the 2008 survey: 73%. In another poll, 85% said Israel used either the right amount of force, or not enough. The remainder, 15%, is roughly equal to the percentage of left-wingers in Israel today - who are asking the tougher questions.
"Critical" Israel, or the long-suffering left, is experiencing a sense of awakening lately. This is the public whose parties floundered in the last several election cycles; it's the roughly 15-18% that calls itself "left," in most surveys. But it organizes and demonstrates weekly at Sheikh Jarrah in East Jerusalem against house evictions of Palestinians by Jewish settlers. Critical Israel includes human rights groups who were demonized for aiding the Goldstone commission, and advocates for human rights and democracy, which defensive Israel slams as "anti-Zionist."
Do these rumblings sound like potential change? It might seem amazing but after such a super-sized debacle, the political system does not seem poised to shift. The left is galvanized but lacks an adequate framework. Its people are enraged at Labor and its leader, Defense Minister Barak. Little Meretz was voted down to just three seats in the 2009 elections and has not demonstrated renewed relevance, save for its requisite presence at the demonstrations. Kadima, the opposition party, which many Israelis view as center-left, could have gained from public anger at the government; but the Maariv poll doesn't quite support that. With rumors of Kadima joining the coalition in the wake of the events, party leader Livni has toed a stalwart "defensive Israel," line regarding the flotilla. Plus, she probably believes it (center-left was always a far -fetched description).
In terms of policy, there are some precedents for events leading to public pressure for change. People have compared the flotilla to Sabra and Shatilla; but those events sparked massive demonstrations, launched a National Investigation Commission and felled a defense minister --- and Israel still stayed in Lebanon for another 18 years. A 1997 helicopter crash contributed to public demands to withdraw from Lebanon, but 73 soldiers were killed.
Israel urgently needs a genuine policy debate before either analogy applies. If the mainstream narrative continues to fixate on the military angles and investigative commissions, self-criticism in Israel will probably end in the acknowledgment of a few intelligence flaws. If defensive Israel decides this is just about rescuing its wounded international image, loosening of the sea blockade to Gaza will suffice, and the big picture won't change.
But after a week and a half, the flotilla story has refused to die and is still extremely prominent in the Israeli public discourse. Friends and families are still arguing about it. Should the public polarization continue, anger at political leadership deepen, and the fear of international isolation increase, maybe Israelis will finally say something like "ad kan!" ("up to here!").
Dahlia Scheindlin is an independent public opinion analyst who has provided strategy for four national electoral campaigns in Israel and in over a dozen other countries.
powerfully influenced by the IDF-filmed and edited battle scene replayed endlessly.
Dahlia, clearly you are implying something here by stressing the IDF as the source of one of the pieces of video/photographic evidence, and leaving off mention of the others. Do you have any information that the video does not reflect what really happened? Were Israelis not influenced by the film from the ship's security cameras or the photos that Turkey published?
David, yes, I am implying something. The items you mention were published only later - roughly one week later, if i recall correctly (give or take). For the first critical days, when israelis were glued to the news - and regular programming during the first day was disrupted by nonstop coverage of the events, only the IDF film was shown. And it was only a tiny segment, perhaps one minute or less, the same exact scene, over and over. We were told by the press that Israeli authorities collected all cellphones and cameras of the people on the ships when they landed, to avoid any further documentation coming out. I do not at all claim that the video does not reflect what happened - but it is totally inaccurate to claim that we know anything else that happened - before or after that clip, or from other angles. by the time the other pieces came out, the images of the IDF clip had already become the permanent face of this incident, for Israelis.
Thanks for the reply, Dahlia. FYI - the earliest security footage I found was released on 2 Jun. The boarding itself took place late 30 Mar or early 31 Mar, basically people became aware of the event upon waking 31 Mar and security camera footage was released on the second day after that.
But to get to the bottom line - Does the IDF film accurately reflect events? Based on all credible evidence that we have subsequently seen, it almost certainly does. So the implication you are making, that Israelis have been duped in some way, seems to miss the mark. Do you think they would have been less outraged if the entire video was shown over and over rather than the so-called highlights (ignoring the fact that news organizations won't show a half hour video on their programs)? That seeing their soldiers bludgeoned and stabbed would have somehow been more palatable if the entire scuffle had been shown?
I do not at all claim that the video does not reflect what happened - but it is totally inaccurate to claim that we know anything else that happened - before or after that clip, or from other angles.
It's not clear what you are saying here. The other photos and footage do corroborate the IDF version of events. It would be more accurate to say:
I do not at all claim that the video does not reflect what happened - but now that we have additional information about what happened - before and after that clip, and from other angles - it seems more likely that it does.
Which brings us back to the start of our conversation. You seem to be actively trying to cast doubt on the IDF's version of events. Certainly we should not blindly accept everything the IDF feeds us. But on the other side of the coin, we should not deny the existence of evidence that corroborates their version of events.
These are some sobering numbers, and a helpful reminder for those of us whose image of Israeli politics is disproportionately shaped by critical-leftist Haaretz. It seems we are dealing with two sides equally bent on adhering to their own narratives.
Very useful article; it paints an almost surreal picture—almost unbelievable. Yet when I consider how vastly effective Israeli and lobby propaganda has worked in the US, I guess I have to accept that it has worked a whole lot better in Israel. The exaggerated subjectivity, together with the almost complete absence of self-reflection, is really quite frightening for anyone concerned about the future of Israel. These poll results almost guarantee that Bibi’s administration will continue on its path of Israeli self-destruction. Why should Bibi and Lieberman make any course corrections when they’ve got the vast majority of Israelis—and the US Congress (not to mention Obama)—behind them?
It reads a bit more like a childish rant from a kid whose opinions are not popular and cannot understand howcome the whole kindergarten doesn't understand how smart he/she is.
Dahlia's opinions are well known and are placed in the Israeli radical left. This is good enough a reason for her to pretend there's no debate in Israel. Afterall, how can there be a debate if her opinion is not accpeted by all?
To put things is percpective, the Israeli society is more vibrant and self- critcising than most of other western societies and on a different planet from Arab/ turkish societies. If you take Israel's situation, both objective and self-perceived, and compare its population strong support to the army's actions, there will not be much difference, or any at all, with support rendered to the army in other western countries where people felt threatened.
"Mainstream Israel is mainly defensive, powerfully influenced by the IDF-filmed and edited battle scene replayed endlessly. Images of Israeli soldiers being beaten and screaming have been seared into people's minds, uniting them in victimhood. It was victimhood that propped up 80% support or more, for the Gaza war."
I think it is a bit deprecating to say Israelis are united in "victimhood" based on those scenes. They are pissed off, as anyone would be watching their soldiers get beaten nearly to death. Nor was it "victimhood" that propped up support for the Gaza war. Israelis were just sick of having rockets fall indiscriminately on their towns and wanted an end to it so life could go on with somewhat normality. They weren't whining and crying, but went into Gaza with a driven, focused attitude.
The same feelings of anger were seen when Israelis were talking about Knesset Member Hanin Zuabi. No one was feeling "oh woo is me" but rather outrage and anger, and a desire that she be censured for siding with Libya a few weeks earlier and now Hamas.
Israelis are furious at the world for being Hypocritical,fake, a
nd unjust. Why is Israel held up to a higher standard than the rest of the world while it faces the most threats.
Why is there such a big outrage over the floatilla raid? These men were armed hired thugs and terrorists which got waht they were asking for, the line about Israeli soldiers saying they wanted to kill the people is a complete lie and I dare you to come up with any proof for that liar.
These men were not responsive to the navy's requests to port in Israel and have the "aid" sent to gaza after inspection they were looking for provocation and drama , these are the only peace activists in the world to carry weapons, the IDF came with paintball guns they didin't expect such actions by the passangers. The world was quick to denounce Israel, even the west and demand an International investigation, we had 46 south korean sailors who died from a north korean torpedo, there was barely any response, the russians who Erase villages in Chechnia are talking? The turks who organized this whole mess are killing lots of Kurds and are violating and opressing human rights in turkey everyday, there are real war criminals in africa which the u.n does nothing about, how many civilians die in Iraq and Afghanistan every day, I don't even want to staart with the arab regimes, and yet the world is mad at Israel for acting in self defense, the hamas smuggles weapons swears to kill us and we have no right to defend ourselves, you guys hold us up to a standard that no one else is held up to and you expect us to just sit here and die quietly?
Jew Israelis have only become worse. I suspect even the Jew Stern Gang and Irgun terrorists cried at night after shooting innocent Palestinian villagers with their sniper rifles.
The modern Jew Israelis are in a class of its own. Don't expect them to change, don't expect them to desire for normal existence, don't expect them to treat Palestinians as equals replica TAG and certainly don't expect them to want a normal government of decent human beings.
Thugs deserve thugs; thuggish citizens, thuggish government.
Expect future Israeli governments to become even worse with even more rabid mad dog behaviour against the Palestinians because thats what the thuggish Israelis citizens want.

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