You can actually watch live coverage from the ships:

http://www.ihh.org.tr/filistin/en/

Most of what I heard is in Turkish with some Arabic and English spoken in the background.

"Israel gobbling up the West Bank while pinning the Palestinians in to an ever smaller, and less viable, bit of real estate is what passes for a status quo."

Here's why propaganda wins over reason and fact.

A) Israel IS NOT "gobbling up the West Bank". In fact, Israel has not ADDED any land in the West Bank in years short of some adjacent land to present settlements appropriated from the withdrawing sea.
B) There's nothing "less viable" in terms of the land that is in debate.
C) UN Res. 242 states that the two sides will have to sit down and define borders, but the Pals do not want to do this - but Netanyahu has asked THREE TIMES now for peace talks... No takers.

"Unless the US cuts of the flow of arms and political cover there is no incentive for change, at at least from the Israeli side."

A common stupid belief built upon revenge and not actual logical thoughts and conclusions.

IF the US withdraws from Israel, Israel will have no one to contain them and they will react out of feeling put against a wall, and no animal reacts well in that case - look at how the Palestinians are reacting... Imagine Israel reacting like that not caring a whit for international opinion and not reacting to any international pressure. Is that really what you want? Wanna think that one through a bit more, perhaps?

"US needs to allow the nations of the world to apply a crippling sanctions regime against Israel."

HA! Yes. But not Hamas and their mortars/rockets, not Lebanon and Hizbollah's attacks, not Iran and their funding and arming of those that attack Israel... ONLY Israel.

Gee, I wonder if this person is partisan!?

"By any metric applied anywhere else in the world Israel can not be counted as one of the 'good guys'."

Except that they are the ONLY country in the whole region that is a functioning democracy, with lawful freedoms for ALL citizens... Wanna try to march in Egypt or Syria or Lebanon or Iran or Saudi Arabia or Gaza? I dare you. Want to speak out against these governments? I dare you. If you're a woman, want to wear what you want and marry whom you want or not? I dare you.

"Iran is a better global citizen, in fact North Korea probably is."

That is the most stupid comment yet. Wow. I wish that I saw that comment first off, because I'd not have bothered to respond.

Swanadee I have read some of your other posts and realise it is probably not worth trying to reason with you but I will try.
A) Is it, or is it not, true that there are currently about 500,000 Israelis living in the West Bank and that much of the road infrastructure has been has been put off limits to Palestinians and that the barrier has encroached into the West Bank land in many places.
B) If the above is true then are the 500,000 balanced on the head of a pin or are they living on West Bank. If they take up space then they are leaving less space for the Palestinians. Unless I see evidence that Israelis are returning settlement land to the Palestinians and stopping all new settlements I take nothing back.
C) I will not argue UN Security Council resolutions with you as the US has made a mockery of them in its protection of Israel. The US has become far the largest user of the veto and the vast majority have been in stopping dozens of resolution against Israeli excesses. As to Netanyahu if he would like to sit down without preconditions under the auspices of a neutral arbitrator – by which I mean not the USA or Iran – then I think he may find some takers.

Arguing that you are only behaving like a school yard bully with first strike capability now, because the US is holding you back, and would be much worse if unconstrained does not do much to help your case.

The US aids Israel in the Billions and Hamas gets maybe $100 million from Iran. This claim of them being armed in any way that may be a serious danger to Israel is ludicrous. In operation caste lead the IDF killed over a thousand civilians for the loss of 9 soldiers and of that 9 the IDF killed 4 which leaves a grand total of 5 IDF dead not killed by their own side which I presume died due to the enormous military build-up supplied by Iran.

I never said you were not a function democracy it is just very sad that you have used your votes consistently empower governments that perpetrate one atrocity after another. I count Lebanon 2006, caste lead and the treatment of the civilians in Gaza as the worst crimes the first two require war crimes prosecutions. I would not like to live in Saudia Arabia, Iran or Egypt but none of them send their troops on killing sprees into neighbouring territories. OK the Saudis have been in Yemen but not on an Israeli scale.

Iran is not a better global citizen than Israel? I would say it was. What has Iran done which is anyway comparable to the two items I have said require Israel to stand trial for war crimes? Have they massacred civilians in an internment camp or invaded another country and littered civilian areas with antipersonnel mines? I do not like North Korea anymore than you do but apart from their latest foray into attacking ships in international waters they too are better neighbours Israel. There are plenty of states that treat their own citizens badly but not many apart from Israel, the US and UK that go around attacking other countries. I am British and count my own country as among the worst global citizens as it is an arms supplier to countries not fit to have a gun and it seems incapable of not joining in wars of aggression which have no moral or legal basis.

OK, so let me get this straight. The Jews / Israel control the US. The U.S. then controls Egypt. So, basically Israel controls Egypt. So, any country the U.S. has sway over, is basically controlled by Israel/Jews or can be. Freeda did you hear about the aliens in your backyard? Do you have your tin foil hat on? Just watch out for those Elders of Zion.....

"We also know the blockade started after Israel pressed the US to press egypt to keep it up." No, the blockade started when Hamas took over Gaza and started using it as a rocket launching pad to fire missile into Israel.

Your idea that the Egyptians are simply toys for the Americans and Israelis is insulting. It borders on racism, a belief that these poor Egyptian Arabs cannot make a rational decision for themselves.

Before becoming elected Shalit was kidnapped by Hamas affiliates. He is now in Hamas control. Hamas is the ruling power. Holding him is part of a policy. Where is the connection not being made Freeda? Hamas and its Islamic affiliates have launched attacks from Gaza, some being with the aim to kidnap more Israeli soldiers or civilians. There have been warnings put out by the Egyptians that Hamas and its agents want to kidnap Israeli tourists in Sinai. This is a plan of action by a government....what we call a policy.

"Israel, as part of its foreign policy, kills/tortures/kidnaps/bombs/shoots ppl in gaza daily." Really? Daily? Wow, that's a lot of hard work. I didn't hear of the big bad Israelis killing someone in Gaza today or any of their torturing. Maybe its the Israeli controlled media hiding it. They must even control Al Jazeera, because no record of a murder-a-day in their online newspaper, too. By the way, where were you when Hamas was pushing Fatah members off of high rises and dragging their bodies through the streets of Gaza City? Oddly, you were very quiet.

Oh, and where were you when Hamas's leader, Mahmoud Al-Zahar announced his policy on homosexuals, saying: "Are these [allowing for same-sex marriage] the laws for which the Palestinian street is waiting? For us to give rights to homosexuals and to lesbians, a minority of perverts and the mentally and morally sick?" Hmm, you were also very quiet. You are just not quiet when it comes to those big bad Jews!!!!

Freeda, I love this intelligent quote of yours: "If hamas didnt shoot rockets into israel, then one of FATAH'S AFFILIATES (israel's supposed negociating partner) would shoot rockets." First of all, how would you know that? What magical "affiliate" of Fatah are we talking about in this hypothetical world you live in? How about I argue that, the U.S. should have invaded Iraq, because if the U.S. didn't someone else would have. Same logic...or lack thereof.

"Israel could remove the "jews-only" cause in its charter." Ummm, Israel doesn't have a charter. It also doesn't have a Constitution, just like Great Britain. It has a Declaration of Independence, but nowhere in that document does it have a "jews only clause." I suggest you read it, before you slander a country by making things up. And, if you would learn, about 30% of Israeli citizens are NOT Jewish. Yep, bedouins, arabs, muslims, christians, circassians, armenians, and druze all are citizens. Some even serve in the army. Israel also let in thousands of Russians who are not considered Jews. It also admitted 84 Bosnian Muslim refugees to its country during the Balkans war. And, it made full citizens of hundreds of Vietnames "boat people" who were fleeing communist persecution after North Vietnam overran South Vietnam.

I really wish you learned things like this before you typed a whole bunch of nonsense.

Finally, I love this little doozy of a quote. It was bound to happen...."If israel wanted to end the war, it could. It doesnt, because it wants gaza to be a concentration camp, like Auschwitz."

Yay!!!!! Another Nazi comparison!!! Are you sure Glen Beck is not writing on here, because no one other than him, and Palestinian supporters, tend to use the ad hominem attack of "Nazi" more. You could have also used the words "Stalinist" that would have been a good ad hominem attack, and it would have changed things up. You gotta have some variance in your hate-filled screeds once in a while.

Lets just be clear. Gaza is nothing like Auschwitz. Gaza is summer camp compared to Auschwitz. But just to indulge in your fantasy... when the Palestinians took a "vacation in Egypt" they engaged "In a shopping spree that was both festive and frenzied, Gazans cleared out stores in an Egyptian border town, buying up everything from TV sets to soft drinks to cigarettes. " Hmmm, I don't remember the Jews having in TV sets, soft drinks or cigarettes in Auschwitz. Oh, a few Palestinians even bought new Japanese made motorcycles and brought them into Gaza. Were there cool motorbikes that the Jews got to ride around on in your Auschwitz fantasy? Maybe they had some off-road racing or X-Sport competitions? Was it hosted by T.J. Lavin?

Well, Freeda, I gave you a lot more attention than anyone in their right mind should have. Find a husband if you can (doubtful), and keep yourself busy. Critical thinking clearly is not a skill you possess.

And i remembered Egypt is the second largest recipient of US aid, after Israel.

Isnt iraq the largest recipient of us aid, followed by afghanistan

Vilk, stop deflecting, the problem is ISRAEL.

How many Israelis have been killed by rockets ? 3 in 5 years.

http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Article.aspx?id=175599

Rocket attacks from Gaza have almost ceased. A small number of rockets have been fired, although splinter groups and not Hamas itself are believed to be behind the attacks.

Hamas isn't going to go away. It was a democratically elected body. And Israel only has itself to blame, you are ignoring the fact that Israel helped Hamas rise in the 1980s to defeat the PLO and then when the PLO ceased being effective advocates for its people, it embraced it and sidelined Hamas.

Zionism is the ethnic cleansing of all Palestinians from ‘Jewish’ land. You can’t accuse Hamas while ignoring all the right wingers, like Lieberman, in Israel who call for the ethnic cleansing of the Palestinians. You’re a hypocrite and not very good one at that.

Various Arab nations, Fatah, and even Hamas have indicated a willingness to recognize Israel along the 1967 borders. Israel has repeated turned down or sabotaged efforts at peace. Given Israel's overwhelming military advantage, the constant complaining about Arabs wanting to wipe Israel off the map lacks credibility.

And shalit? What about the THOUSANDS of Palestinains who are detained - at night - taken from their homes, beaten, killed, and tortured. You think, we, or the world, ought to be upset about one Israeli soldier. You want shalit back? End the occupation, get your illegal settler terrorists out of the West Bank, stop your incursions into Gaza and SETTLE FOR PEACE.

Israel is the problem.

Your rantings are pure lunacy. And stop insulting anyone who disagrees with you. The facts are there and you can't change them.

Keep trying put no one is buying your BS. Go back to the Hasbara institute in your capital, Tel Aviv and have a huddle with your other bloggers because what your doing is not working.

Israel is the problem. Always has been, always will be.

Anyone remember the Hebron massacre of 1929? Israel wasn't in existence. The Jews in Hebron weren't settlers. They had never and were there long before the arab hordes invaded the Levant and long before the time of Mohammed. After that the arabs ethnically cleansed Hebron. They also ethnically cleansed the Etzion bloc of villages. There was also the Tsfat massacre of Jews in 1928. Again, these were religious non-zionist jews living there from biblical times, long before arabs invaded the Levant. And, the arabs killed them.

Here is what Mahmoud Abbas, Palestinian president had to say as recent as two weeks ago:

Abbas criticized Hamas, saying that "they are hoarding weapons."

"There was also the Tsfat massacre of Jews in 1928. Again, these were religious non-zionist jews living there from biblical times, long before arabs invaded the Levant."

Wow! They were there from biblical times all the way up to 1928 when they were massacred? LMAO

You are really sick.

"Why is the death of innocent people funny?
You are really sick."

And you are really thick. Read it again, carefully, and keep reading it until you understand what I was saying.

and indefensible. Only the most virulent racist tendencies drive and thrive in this environment. I read what the unrestrained id of Israel writes, it is the carbon copy of the opposition's most vocal leaders. But what you do is you empower those violent leaders because without them the population knows that it will have 48 hours to collect all they can and run away before the bulldozers roll through the alleyway.

And, I meant the whole thing.

To this though - "Hamas and Israel are essentially in a prolonged state of war." Yes, that's a point that not many understand. This is not just Israel beating up some poor little kids - this is war. And, in war - bad things happen, which is why these groups should not encourage and cause bad things to happen. Don't want people to die on boats? Then do what the navy says and go to land. Don't want people to die in Gaza? Then don't attack Israel. Don't want people to die in Gaza because they can't get to a hospital? Then don't use ambulances to ferry explosives and terrorists.

There's a cause and effect relationship here that goes beyond petty bias and bigotry. People here don't want logic and reason, they want Israel to PAY, and this has been going on before the '20s when there were the first anti-Jewish pogroms in this regoin that lead us to this situation.

If ever there was a case to be made that lying & complete mutilation of truth is the cornerstone of Jewishism, VILKSSWEDEN, you are the poster child. I can say with reasonable certainty that Jews run away from truth much the same way that roaches flee to the cracks in the wall when you turn the lights on. The Khazar wannabe Jews (95% of those who call themselves "Jews") consider light and truth as anti-semetic. Their rantings are NEVER factual and one can deduce the content of the their ranting posts by reading the opening words of the first sentence.

I am glad anti-semites like you come out of the woodwork through articles like this. First, you haven't responded to a single point. Somehow, we should all take your word that everything I say is false. You seem to predicate that on the assumption I am Jewish, despite my name. Even if I were Jewish, it wouldn't make my statements false nor would it change the fact that you haven't refuted a single one.

Whether or not someone is a Khazar does not determine religion. Second, the Khazar theory has been disproved by genetic studies. The only people still pushing that theory are the Palestinians and the Nazi organization "Stormfront." Everyone else has gotten with the times and follows something called "genetics," which show that Jews from all over the world carry genetics that link them to the Middle East / Levant.

Again, thank you for showing your conspiratorial, anti-semitic, and non-intellectual colors. If you chose to post next time, please actually put information and facts rather than just telling someone they are "wrong."

Your rantings are pure lunacy. And stop insulting anyone who disagrees with you. The facts are there and you can't change them.

Keep trying put no one is buying your BS. Go back to the Hasbara institute in your capital, Tel Aviv and have a huddle with your other bloggers because what your doing is not working.

Israel is the problem. Always has been, always will be.

"Imagine if this... Imagine if that.. Now imagine if that." Ok, lets get back to reality. I urge you to read a book on Nazis and the Third Reich. Think it would open your eyes to what happened.

How about you imagine someone making a ludicrous claim (insert your name) actually reading a book and stop making insane comparisons for shock value.

You are no different than the people painting Obama with the mini-moustache and swastika or the people who called Bush and Cheney nazis.

because Israel isn't systematically killing and enslaving populations like the Nazis. It's not so hard to comprehend that.

Israel and Palestinians are at war. Its not the same as Nazi Germany exterminating 15 million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and others.

In addition there is no forced labor like the Nazis. Israel lets humanitarian aide into Gaza despite being shot at, infiltration attacks, and their soldier being kidnapped.

Is this clear for you? Now, please stop with your idiotic, childish, and silly comparisons.

provide any. I've only heard you ranting about "imagining" things. I could always make the same idiotic comparisons about Nazis to the Palestinians, whose leader Haj Amin Al- Hussaini actually worked with the Nazis and helped raise a muslim SS division, the Hanjar division.

I could make a claim that you are like the Nazis, using idiotic lies over and over again until you think people will believe you. The Nazis also made outlandish claims, as do you.

Finally, please do not respond to my posts if you can't back up what you say with facts.

What a joke you are. Is it not pretty well obvious that you and your ilk are paid by that filthy regime to go around the web and post your lies? Spare me the b.s. Actually, spare us the b.s. All, without exception, of your patently false contentions are exactly the same boiler plate lies spread all over the net by Jews and Jews ONLY. It is the contentions of barbarians thinking they could buy their way into twisting logic. All the rules of humanity applies to everyone else except the Jews - at least in your psychopathic heads. Screaming "anti-semite" doesn't cut it like it used to. In fact, folks like you are the worst anti-semites of them all. (see how easy it is to call someone "anti-semite." Yaaaaaawwwwnnn. Let's pretend we don't all know that Palestinians are real Semites and that your ilk are not. Your ilk did not come from Palestine or the surrounding areas - not yesterday, not 2000 years ago, not ever. You are fake. Everything about your existence and the tall tales that rule your hideous lives are lies - plain outright lies. Even the few Israeli archeologists who dare to speak the truth (self-hating Jews your ilk calls them) confirms, you're an invention like most of the rest of your program of pure evil. The arrogance is overwhelming. You're right and the rest of humanity is wrong. I wonder who taught the Nazis their propaganda skills. They were mere bumbling amateurs compared to you folks. Anyway, have a nice day at work. Earn your salary. Continue posting as much b.s. as the bull plops down in on the ground.

Vilks:
"Your claims are wrong because Israel isn't systematically killing and enslaving populations like the Nazis. It's not so hard to comprehend that.

Israel and Palestinians are at war. Its not the same as Nazi Germany exterminating 15 million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and others.

In addition there is no forced labor like the Nazis. Israel lets humanitarian aide into Gaza despite being shot at, infiltration attacks, and their soldier being kidnapped.

Is this clear for you? "

Which planet do you live on "Vilks the a&^h0l3"?! It's nice to go home and tack up in a cozy warm bed, right?!

You said:
1. Israel isn't systematically killing and enslaving populations like the Nazis:

We said:
1. BOMBS fall as CHILDREN go to school. Time is running out in Gaza and mass starvation looms as Gaza\'s skies are further darkened with threats of an Israeli military incursion. As a journalist, peace activist, and one of the hundreds of thousands of Gazans who are being collectively punished by Israel, I urge those who read this to appeal their governments to hold Israel accountable to international law, including the Fourth Geneva Convention, article 33 of which forbids the collective punishment of a civilian population. Ohh let's not forget the use of FAKE British and Australian passports to MURDER plaestinian targets!

You said:
2. "Israel and Palestinians are at war. Its not the same as Nazi Germany exterminating 15 million Jews, Gypsies, homosexuals, and others."

We said:
2. Approximately 1.5 million Palestinian civilians have died since 1948,including the victims of the ethnic cleansing campaigns in the west in 1948-50 and in the east since 1967. Civilian deaths have escalated dramatically in recent years since the zionists developed their obsession with the Palestinian birth-rate,and children are often the target. There is only a small fine for killing a Palestinian in cold blood. It's based on a weapons charge,not murder. To understand the genocidal character of this vile regime,one need only glance at the responses from zionists; at least half advocate or at least imply approval of the killing of non-jews.

NOT THE FULL LIST - Israel has 226 U.S.-supplied F-16 fighter and attack jets, 89 F-15 combat aircraft, over 700 M-60 tanks, over 6,000 armored personnel carriers, and scores of transport planes, attack helicopters, utility and training aircraft, bombs, and missiles of all kinds – air-to-air, air-to-ground, surface-to-air, and air-to surface.

NOT THE FULL LIST - Palestinians have home made rockets, Assoult rifles, knives, suicide bombers in the ansence of tanks and fighter jets and Toy Guns. "For 12-year-old Mujahed Al Samadi, life ended quickly with a bullet to his chest from an IDF sniper who mistook his toy gun for the real thing"

You said:
3. "In addition there is no forced labor like the Nazis. Israel lets humanitarian aide into Gaza despite being shot at, infiltration attacks, and their soldier being kidnapped."

We said:
3. (i) Many Palestinian children in Israeli Telmond Prison are being exploited by "forced labor in which they must work eight hours for a few shekels.
(ii) There is someone in Israel more exploited than the migrant workers or janitorial staff and it is Arab women.
(iii) Trafficking and Forced Prostitution of Palestinian Women and Girls. trafficking routes: from the West Bank to Jerusalem; from Gaza to Jerusalem; and within the West Bank.

You said:
4. Is this clear for you?

We said:
4. IS THIS CLEAR FOR YOU? a&^h0l3

again, no facts used in your angry screed. Just some base comparison to the Holocaust. Learn history, learn about WWII, and learn about the current situation. Please stop polluting this board with idiotic screams of "fire" and disgusting Holocaust comparisons.

Frankly, some of your arguments are outdated (for example quoting Hamas original charter that refuses to recognize Israel even though time and time again they have stated they will recognize Israel along the 1967 borders in a peace treaty). You are either ignorant of facts like this or you willfully ignore them because such facts do not support your arguments. Noone here is calling for you stop spouting outdated arguments are they? Who appointed you the FP public forum police?

And for the love of (insert holy figure here) stop it with the antisemitism card. It doesn't work anymore we all know better. Once and for all, criticism of Israel is not antisemitism no matter how much you wish it was.

"I guess my fear is what I see happening in some circles is (an) anti-Israeli sentiment, really just as a thinly disguised veil for good old-fashioned anti-Semitism, which I think is completely unacceptable."

Again, when you criticize the Jewish state as opposed to any other state, and hold it to standards that you do not hold other states to, it's highly suspect you have deeper, more sinister motives. Moreover, outrageous comparisons, blood libels, Jewish conspiracy theories, and willful ignorance of facts seems to show there are some strange motivations going on here.

I'm not interested in supplying you with the obvious. Facts? Since when has cold hard facts change the opinions of cold, hard Jews? Have a nice day and make sure your dirty employers in Tel Aviv pay you well for posting here.

Again, the idiotic comparisons to the Holocaust. The Jews in the Warsaw ghettos were being "liquidated." That means that they were being systematically starved to death, worked to death, and deported to death camps.

What about history can you not understand? This is not happening in Gaza. The Gazan Palestinians, unlike the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto, are a HOSTILE government at war with Israel. They are supported by Syria and Iran. They import Hezbollah military trainers, anti-aircraft missiles, and anti-tank/rpg rockets.

Unlike in Warsaw, NO Palestinian has died of malnutrition or starvation. I don't think there is always fillet minion for dinner but they aren't starving to death. There is NO rampant disease in Gaza like in Warsaw. In fact, Israel has allowed Palestinians from Gaza medical treatment in it's hospitals. In 2009 alone, 10,544 patients and their companions left the Gaza Strip for medical treatment in Israel. The Israeli group Hadassah donates $3 million annually to help Palestinians get medical treatment.

Finally, no Palestinian is being forced into labor, executed on the streets, or sent to death camps like Jews were in the Warsaw Ghetto.

So please, stop with the Holocaust comparisons. It shows a total ignorance on your part. I beg you to read about history and learn before you make base comparisons, distort history, and tarnish the true suffering of people.

Your rantings are pure lunacy. And stop insulting anyone who disagrees with you. The facts are there and you can't change them.

Keep trying put no one is buying your BS. Go back to the Hasbara institute in your capital, Tel Aviv and have a huddle with your other bloggers because what your doing is not working.

Israel is the problem. Always has been, always will be.

thanks for the argument minus any facts. Again, claiming someone is a "Hasbara" agent is not an effective argument. And if you read my name, you know I am not Israeli and Tel Aviv is not "my capital."

So, your best defense against my arguments is telling me "to go away." Nice one.

Thanks! Love to see my name in print. Now go away, your boring and offer nothing to the debate.

rant like 3 times already. And your only screed is that I am somehow a "Hasbara" agent from Tel Aviv. Wow, you offer a lot. I can go back to "tel aviv" when you go back under the rock you crawled out from under.

you just love to bash Israel with silly rants. I think you are either a bot that posts moronic, poorly written rants on Israel every day or a semi-literate child.

Either way, if you want to know about the roads at least have your facts straight: In the wake of the scandal over opening Route 443 to enemy traffic, the IDF revealed that it has spent $40 million to build the roads for Palestinians.

No Jews are allowed on those roads, which connect Arab villages to Ramallah.

This is how Israeli ‘apartheid’ works: Jews pay for Palestinian-only roads and for Israeli roads which the Palestinians use freely.

Your rantings are pure lunacy. And stop insulting anyone who disagrees with you. The facts are there and you can't change them.

Keep trying put no one is buying your BS. Go back to the Hasbara institute in your capital, Tel Aviv and have a huddle with your other bloggers because what your doing is not working.

Israel is the problem. Always has been, always will be.

Jews are afraid of joining the human race? Give me an example of how the arabs with their billions of dollers from oil money have made the world a better place for humanity? what have they donated to humanity besides Jihad and Mosques and the zero? With all their graet fortune nothing, Israel and jews at least have made contributions to medicine, science, technology, gay rights women's rights etc.... You arabs only speak of humanity and democracy when it suits your needs, go complain to Saudi Arabia and Iran about humanity.
Open roads to women in saudi arabia mr. humanity, the road used to be open untill it was used for terror attacks to kill civilians. They are digging their own holes and than complaining about israeli brutality. Illegaly occupied palestine? Says who? You and arabs that it is illegally occupied palestine, that was occupied by jordan and egypt for a long time, and the palestinians had no urge to create anything for all those years.
Decided to attack Israel and now complain about how "their" land was taken. Only time in history when the looser of the war demands land back when they were the attckers. No country has had sovereinty over that land for years since the turks so Israel can do whatever iot likes with the land, but will be willing to make concessions for true peace, and we seen before that we keep offering and you guys cant even make a counter offer. So please don't selll us your cheap rehtoric

Jews are afraid of joining the human race? Give me an example of how the arabs with their billions of dollers from oil money have made the world a better place for humanity? what have they donated to humanity besides Jihad and Mosques and the zero? With all their graet fortune nothing, Israel and jews at least have made contributions to medicine, science, technology, gay rights women's rights etc.... You arabs only speak of humanity and democracy when it suits your needs, go complain to Saudi Arabia and Iran about humanity.
Open roads to women in saudi arabia mr. humanity, the road used to be open untill it was used for terror attacks to kill civilians. They are digging their own holes and than complaining about israeli brutality. Illegaly occupied palestine? Says who? You and arabs that it is illegally occupied palestine, that was occupied by jordan and egypt for a long time, and the palestinians had no urge to create anything for all those years.
Decided to attack Israel and now complain about how "their" land was taken. Only time in history when the looser of the war demands land back when they were the attckers. No country has had sovereinty over that land for years since the turks so Israel can do whatever iot likes with the land, but will be willing to make concessions for true peace, and we seen before that we keep offering and you guys cant even make a counter offer. So please don't selll us your cheap rehtoric

Joan Peters would be proud of you

Remember when the Israel gov't held Cynthia Mckinney? Nothing ever happens though, no international incident, no follow up news coverage. It just gets swept under the rug.

I suppose Vilks will tell us it's antisemitic to let humanitarian missions into Gaza.

The goods can cross at a border crossing where they can be inspected. Why? Because concrerte and iron are being used for making military bunkers and tunnels rather than houses. Why? Because anti-aircraft missiles and anti-tank rockets are being smuggled into gaza. Why? Because rather than have a concern for its people, Hamas is focused on bringing in military hardware or misusing any and all construction / fuel supplies.

criticize one nation, the Jewish nation (or nation with the Jewish majority, however you wish to say it) and ignore all others. When someone spouts something about universal values or claims to be for human rights yet ignores everyone else except the Jewish country, it says something about them and deeper more sinister motives.

Thus, when several states do the same thing, but only the Jewish state is blamed, it is anti-Semitic.

When you make unfounded allegations against Israel, such as Nazi comparisons, its antisemitic. Especially when you are silent on real genocide going on in Darfur.

When you deny Jews a homeland its antisemitic. Especially since nearly everyone here is on land that once belonged to someone else at sometime. I urge the Americans to move out of their homes and give up their property. At least the Jews had a starting point in the Levant, where as you Americans originated all over the world.

Mark Strauss of foreign policy, this publication, has described this virulent anti-zionism / anti-Israel behavior as "the medieval image of the 'Christ-killing' Jew resurrected." Using Zionism and Israel is a nice cover for deeper feelings.

With all due respect, what is this nonsense? you say if one criticizes Israel and no other country then it is antisemitic. So if I criticize Israel on this thread, and you have zero information on me otherwise than what you see on this particular thread, then you can conclude I am an antisemite? This is the height of stupidity and it is played out over and over and over again on most threads that deal with Israel.

This poor, tired, played out accusation has one foot in the grave and I will be quite happy when it is buried forever. Because let me tell you right here: I think Jews are among the finest people on the planet. I think the

With all due respect, what is this nonsense? You say if one criticizes Israel and no other country then it is antisemitic. So if I criticize Israel on this thread, and you have zero information on me otherwise than what you see on this particular thread, then you can conclude I am an antisemite? This is the height of stupidity and it is played out over and over and over again on most threads that deal with Israel. You really should rethink this.

This poor, tired, played out accusation has one foot in the grave and I will be quite happy when it is buried forever. Because let me tell you right here: I think Jews are among the finest people on the planet. The majority of people I work with are Jewish. I acknowledge with pleasure the great achievements of the Jewish people. I acknowledge with pleasure their contributions to humanity. I have many many Jewish friends (living in New York this isn't uncommon with a heavy Jewish population). I THINK THE WORLD OF THEM. On the other hand, I think the GOVERNMENT (I repeat GOVERNMENT, not people) of Israel sucks. I would not be surprised if many people that criticize Israel on this thread and others agree with me wholeheartedly.

What does it matter what I think of other countries???? Yay for Sweden, Switzerland, Italy; nay for Saudi Arabia and North Korea. Where does that leave us?